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Damage Prevention Committee

inutes of Maryland/DC Damage Prevention Meeting
November 23, 2010
Miss Utility Call Center
Hanover, MD  21076

I. Call To Order and Introduction

Wayne Gilmer (Utiliquest) called the regular monthly meeting to order at 9:30 am.

Introductions were made.

The minutes of October 26 were discussed, and members of M. Luis Construction raised a question about markings for milling operations. Tom Baldwin (BGE) informed them that test pitting is mandatory for all excavation within 18 inches of marks in all directions.

Tom informed them that once the facility is identified through test pitting at reasonable increments, safe digging can continue. The key thing is finding consistency in the location throughout the test pitting. Scott Brown (Washington Gas) confirmed it was accurate.

Minutes were then approved as written.

II. Safety Item

Wayne informed everyone that the Common Ground Alliance has named this group as a CGA Regional Partner and he passed the plaque around the room.

III. CGA Regional Partner

Nick Kelly (MGH) said the last home and garden show of the year would be held this weekend at the Show Place Arena. There was a general discussion about attendance being way down this year at most of the shows.

IV. MGH Update

  • Chris McMurry (MGH) mentioned the Nov. 19 meeting at MGH and how recommendations will be voted on and approved at Dec. 14 Subscribers meeting.
  • David Wilkins (WSSC) informed the group that the Showplace Arena show was lightly attended despite the fact that the show organizer distributed free tickets. Wayne confirmed that he saw the same thing at many of the home and garden shows across the state.
  • Tom Baldwin mentioned that MD PSC will be applying for grant money for excavator guide and video.

V. Locator Achievement Awards

  • Kevin Woolbright (Chairman) of WSSC and Dora Parks (Co-chair) of Miss Utility informed everyone meetings will be held the week of Nov. 15 to make the program better. Major changes are:
    • Dig Smart Awards will become part of the GCDPTC in Ocean City.
    • Locator Achievement Awards will remain in the spring/early summer at a Bowie Baysox game.
  • Nomination forms for LAA will go out within the next month.

VI. Damage Prevention Presentations

Wayne informed everyone about the following presentations that were given since the last meeting:

  • Columbia Association (11/9)
  • B. Frank Joy (11/10)
  • Garrett County Roads and Public Utilities Departments (11/17)

Focus has been the 10-15 minute law change presentation, with about 30-45 minutes of Q&A consistently following each presentation.

VII. GCDPTC Conference

  • Chris McMurry provided information about the post-conference survey. He indicated that the conference rated very highly and that attendees requested another conference in the fall of 2011 in Ocean City.
  • Kevin Woolbright informed everyone that other events he’s done in Ocean City have always ended up back at the Clarion

VIII. Recent and Upcoming Meetings

  • Nov. 19 at MGH about 2011 marketing – Chris McMurry and Tom Baldwin provided a recap for the group.
  • Dec. 14 at call center to approve 2011 plan

IX. MD Damage Prevention Authority

  • Tom informed everyone that he anticipates appointments coming by the end of the year.

Need for designer manual

  • Tickets only represent 1%, so it makes the most sense to incorporate designer language into the excavator guide vs. creating a separate piece.

X. FTTP/FIOS Progress Report:

Mike Boin (Verizon) gave the following FTTP trench footage projections:

Anne Arundel 3,089
Baltimore 37,521
Charles 3,678
Howard 0
Harford 0
Montgomery 5,105
Prince George’s 2,820
Washington DC 59,063

Open Discussion:

  • Dora reminded everyone that there will not be a DP meeting in December.


  • Gary Hess (WSSC) – Raised concerns about the response he got from UtiliQuest, particularly during the week of the GCDPTC in Ocean City. He said it often took several hours to wait during water main breaks. He’s concerned because it’s not even the busy season for water main breaks yet. He noted that it had gotten better during the past two weeks, but the six weeks before were much worse. He is requesting to at least get a phone call to know when to expect locates. David Wilkins mentioned that UtiliQuest is now providing them with an on call list to help them when something happens. Kevin Woolbright mentioned that UtiliQuest representatives had a bit of an attitude about the fact that they don’t work with WSSC anymore, but that it’s important to retain the partnership among all utilities and locators. Dan Wiles (Utiliquest) indicated that they will handle those issues. Kevin complimented the work of Erik Phillips (Utiliquest) in Montgomery County.aimiendo-Edgeberg (M Luis Construction) thanked Wayne Gilmer for his help and thanked the group for providing a helpful resource to them. Things still aren’t perfect, including mismarks and facilities that aren’t on the print. She asked for a higher level of accountability among all stakeholders. She also mentioned that a locator said to a crew member of theirs that he is underpaid and doesn’t have to mark it perfectly. She said the new law is only going to be successful if partnership is higher. Tom Baldwin encouraged everyone to contact the facility owners involved for mismarks or for locators not acting in a responsible way.


  • Rick Thrutchley (M Luis Construction) has issues with the response time of locators. All facility representatives said they will work with them on these issues, but real time notification is preferred.


  • A representative from M Luis Construction Asked: What is fair amount of time to wait if you test pit and don’t find anything? – Tom Baldwin said within a few hours, directly through locators and facility owners vs. using the Miss Utility system. He said it will help the excavator get quick attention.


  • John Clementson (MDPSC) reminded attendees that you don’t want to call in a ticket too early because you may have to update it soon after the start of it.


  • Various representatives from M Luis Construction raised a concern about an exposed facility that was only taped down. Tim Kempa (Comcast) mentioned that temporary facilities are a part of the business for continuity, and that they are buried as soon as possible. In some counties there are major penalties for exposed facilities. Tim mentioned that they are typically orange and high visibility.


  • Tom Hastings (OCC Locating) asked why are there “work-to-begin” dates of Monday on Wednesday tickets. Dora said that these are just target dates and that excavators are informed to only dig once they have clearance from all facility owners. 12:01 a.m. was designed to make it clear for which date it is, since midnight is ambiguous. There had been complaints of having to wait until Monday morning at 12:01 a.m. Tom Baldwin mentioned that the system needs to be in compliance with the law as the end of the second business day at midnight. Extended discussion continued.


  • Laurence Johnson (Pinpoint Underground) asked if there are any consequences or penalties in place to force the system to work better, specifically the smoothness of the locating process in terms of timeliness and accuracy. He wondered if communication is really enough. Tom Baldwin spoke about the formation of the Authority and asked if Laurence and others would rather have fines coming their way versus trying to work it out through partnerships. Tom Hastings said that the system is good and is designed to only target egregious offenders. Scott Brown said that local partnerships are still the best way to resolve most problems.


  • Deena Joyce (WSSC) mentioned that they need to update their records and wanted to know if other facility owners are making additions as they learn about them through other locates. Scott Brown mentioned that they have to do so every month at Washington Gas. He mentioned that they’ve invested millions of dollars into mapping accuracy. John Clementson reminded everyone that facilities shift in relation to landmarks. Scott Brown mentioned that they do outreach to people who damage their lines and invite them to DP meetings and training. Scott said the goal is to get it to someone in the company who will take note of the communications. Wayne and Dora reminded everyone that utility owners/locators get address information for the excavator who processes a ticket.


  • Scott Brown spoke of major natural gas findings in Pennsylvania that has the potential to lower gas prices.

Upcoming Meetings:tion meeti meeting is scheduled for November 23, 20 meeti meeting is scheduled for January 25, 2011 at the Miss Utility Center.  Coffee and donuts will be served at 9:00 am.  The meeting will begin at 9:30 am.

The next uled for December 14, 2010 at the Missmeeting is scheduled for Febuary 10, 2011 at the Miss Utility Center at 9:00 am.

There being no further business brought before the committee, the meeting was adjourned at 11:25 am.

ITIC % Report for Maryland and Washington D.C.ges/sp.gif" width="1" height="5">
Month   Call Center Tickets   ITIC Tickets   Percentage
Oct-09   56,231   41,518   74%
Nov-09   47,354   35,332   75%
Dec-09   46,735   36,479   78%
Jan-10   46,647   36,231   78%
Feb-10   29,716   23,540   79%
Mar-10   63,185   48,118   76%
Apr-10   62,125   45,434   73%
May-10   58,840   40,275   73%
Jun-10   61,175   45,561   74%
Jul-10   57,518   43,096   75%
Aug-10   60,658   45,725   75%
Sep-10   59,379   44,876   76%
Oct-10   57,137   41,489   73%
Attendee List
Name   Company   Phone   Email
Wayne Gilmer Utiliquest   301-674-2769   walter.gilmer@utiliquest.com
Kevin Woolbright   WSSC   240-205-3684   kwoolbr@wsscwater.com
Dan Wiles   Utiliquest   410-536-0070   dan.wiles@utiliquest.com
Audra Weber   M Luis Construction   301-722-4255   Audra.weber@mluiscconstruction.com
Celina Egeberg   M Luis Construction   410-545-0641   celina.egeberg@mluisconstruction.com
John Clementson   MDPSC   410-767-8111   jclementson@psc.state.md.us
John Rothe   Senga Safety Services   410-746-2566   sengasafetyservices@hotmail.com
Tim Kempa   Comcast   410-933-1138   Tim_kempa@cable.comcast.com
Tom Baldwin BGE   410-470-6696   t.c.baldwin@bge.com
Joe Walton M Luis Construction   240-375-2772   joe@mluisconstruction.com
Rick Thrutchley M Luis Construction 240-304-8133 rick@mluisconstruction.com
Leo Domingues   M Luis Construction   240-882-6430   leo@mluisconstruction.com
Erik Phillips   Utiliquest   443-324-7835   Erik.phillips@utiliquest.com
David Wilkins   WSSC   301-206-4371   Dwilkin1@wsscwater.com
Nic Barone   Gray & Sons   410-771-4311   nbarone@graynson.com
Tom Hastings OCCLS 410-712-0202 thastings@occls.com
Greg Johnson PEPCO   301-670-8735   gmjohnson@pepco.com
Tiffany Jewell   SMECO   301-396-4907   Tiffany.jewell@smeco.coop
Mike Boins   Verizon   301-236-3626   Michael.m.boin@verizon.com
Jay Miranda   Badger Daylighting   202-603-4067   jmiranda@badger-corp.com
Chris McMurry   MGH   410-902-5036   cmcmurry@mghus.com
Martin Wetzler   Long Fence   240-412-1922   mwetzler@longfence.com
Tim Rich   Williams Gas Pipeline   410-465-7459   Tim.o.rich@williams.com
Glenn Goins   AA County   410-222-7344   Pwgoin01@aacounty.org
Christopher Gaines   M Luis Construction   410-545-0641   Chris.gaines@mluiscontruction.com
G Hess   WSSC   301-706-7309   ghess@wsscwater.com
Charles Simpson   WSSC   301-206-7300   Csimpso@wsscwater.com
Nick Barone   Gray n Son   40-365-5635   nbarone@graynson.com
Scott Brown   Washington Gas   703-750-4388    
Deena Joyce   WSSC   301-206-8259   djoyce@wsscwater.com
Laurence Johnson   Pinpoint Underground   301-672-8520   LJ@pinpointunderground.com
Dora Parks   WSSC   301-706-7309   dora@missutility.net