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Minutes of Maryland/DC Damage Prevention Meeting
September 26, 2006
Miss Utility Call Center
Hanover, MD  21076

I. Call To Order and Introduction:
Wayne Gilmer (Utiliquest) called the regular monthly meeting to order at 9:35 am.
Introductions were made.

There was one correction to the Minutes. Tom Baldwin stated that nixing and nixed should be changed to nicking and nicked in the following paragraph: “There was a lengthy discussion about nicking and bumping utility lines. Jack Sullivan stated that they are seeing an increase in faults from cables that had been nicked six to twelve months ago. He requested that BGE be contacted whenever a cable jacket/sheathing is nicked. He also indicated that BGE would not bill for it. A few stated that utility owners should be contacted directly whenever a utility line is going to be exposed for long periods of time.”

The minutes of August 22, 2006 were approved with the one correction.

II. Damage Prevention Presentations:
None at this time.

III. Safety Events:
Wayne Gilmer attended the 2006 Centennial Contractors Mid-Atlantic Safety Fair at the La Fontaine Bleu in Lanham, MD on September 21, 2006. He stated that PEPCO, Red Cross, MOSH and Safeware were some of the companies providing safety material in addition to Miss Utility. He said seminars were done on electrical safety and fall protection in addition to excavation safety. He said that PEPCO had done their overhead electric line safety demonstration that day and thought everyone would benefit from seeing it. There was a brief discussion about BGE’s overhead electric line safety demonstration. Tom Baldwin said he would look into seeing if it could be done at a future MD/DC Damage Prevention Committee meeting.

Matt Ruddo stated that a damage prevention presentation was scheduled for AA County DPW on October 3, 2006 at 435 Maxwell Frye Road in Millersville, MD. He said that they will have approximately 50 people in attendance.

IV. Trade Shows:
Wayne Gilmer gave a brief overview of the trade show coverage and schedule at Ripken Stadium, Timonium Fairgrounds and the Show Place Arena. He also stated that a second trade show booth was ordered because there are times when the booth is needed for events on the same day. Matt Ruddo said the second booth may be available for those that have a company sponsored safety day.

V. Locator Achievement & Dig Smart Awards:
Wayne Gilmer stated the first meeting was held on September 25, 2006 and that Nelson Sneed of Verizon would be the Chairman of the Committee. He said that everyone was comfortable with the overall process, but that Chris McMurry (MGH) had several great suggestions to enhance the event. He said the group agreed that a better photographer was needed and that a survey about the Awards night would be given to those that attend the event as well.

VI. Marking Standards Committee:
Wayne Gilmer stated that the Marking Standards Committee has made progress since their first meeting on May 3, 2006. He said they have agreed on definitions and marking styles for corridor and conduit markings. He said at the last meeting they discussed perimeter safe zone markings. He stated that perimeter safe zone markings would be used around pad mounted equipment such as transformers, pedestals, cabinets, etc. He also stated that no mechanized equipment should be used in the safe zone area.

There was a lengthy discussion about the perimeter safe zone markings. A few expressed concerns with having to hand dig inside a large boxed area. Several suggested that vacuum excavation be used in those types of situations and that Subsurface Utility Engineering (SUE) should be considered on large projects. Tom Baldwin indicated that some states require SUE on major project work. He said that he has also seen statistics that state that $1 dollar of SUE work can save $4 on the backend of a major project.

VII. Contractor Events:
Matt Ruddo stated that two contractor events are scheduled for October 17th at the Hughesville American Legion Post#238 at 6265 Brandywine Road and the 19th in Spencerville at the Cedar Ridge Community Church at 2410 Spencerville Road. He said that Roger Campbell from MOSH would be the guest speaker at both events. He also said that MOSH would have their booth there in addition to the Miss Utility booth and some of the MD Subscribers.

VIII. MD/DC Subscribers Group:
Wayne Gilmer gave a brief update on the topics that were discussed at the September 6th MD/DC Subscribers meeting. He stated that MGH had been selected as the advertising agency to replace Lisa Howard. He also stated that the Call Center is continuing to work with ADC on their grid overlay images.

Tom Baldwin asked Matt Ruddo if the 811 call could be used to check the status of tickets. Matt Ruddo stated it wouldn’t be cost effective because the 811 call is being pointed to a toll-free number and they would transfer the call to the Ticket Check toll-free number. He did state that a vector could be created that transfers them to a message letting the caller know that the toll-free number is 1-866-821-4226.

Mark Hamrick stated that Verizon wireless has implemented 811 and that it is up and running.

IX. FTTP/FIOS Progress Report:
Christy Stinebaugh stated that she had accepted another position within Verizon and that today was going to be her last damage prevention meeting. She stated that Shawn Breen would be taking her place at the meetings. She also stated that Mark Salazar would be replacing Mike Hoover as the Director for the FTTP project effective October 1, 2006.

Shawn Breen provided the following trench footage projections for October;

Anne Arundel 44,442 feet
Howard 33,343 feet
Prince George’s 238,300 feet
Montgomery 0 feet

Shawn also stated that 2,261 FTTP and 193 FIOS contractors have been trained so far in 2006.

Mark Hamrick (Verizon) stated that Pat Knickman (Verizon) didn’t have the FIOS projections for the meeting today. John Payne (Southern MD Cable) asked if there were any target dates for the FTTP project in Calvert, Charles and St. Mary’s Counties. Mark stated that something may happen in Calvert next year, but nothing is definite.

X. Open Discussion:
John Payne asked if anyone had a source for getting bedded shovels. Several stated that they aren’t on the market and that he should contact a welder.

There was a general discussion about what should be done when a cable is nicked and who should be contacted. Christy Stinebaugh stated that all nicked cables from an FTTP installation should be referred to their hotline which is 1-888-550-2244.

Matt Cupples (Flippo Construction) stated that he is getting invoiced for cable damages because they have called a ticket in the area. He also expressed concerns because the utility owner and contract locator are called when the damage occurs and the contractor is not made aware of it until they get the bill. Christy Stinebaugh suggested he talk to Vince Healy (Verizon) on all Verizon bills.

Dennis Lescalleet (Pleasants Construction) shared a recent story in which one man died in a manhole in the Washington D.C area. He said that one man went into the manhole to pick up something he had dropped and died because there was no oxygen in the hole. He said a second man went in to get him and is currently in critical condition. Dennis stated that they would be alive today had they tested the atmosphere in the manhole before they went in. Christ Stinebaugh stated that websites are available providing reference material for excavation safety, confined space, etc. A few had stated that National Utility Contractors Association (NUCA) is a good resource material as well.

Dennis Lescallett showed everyone a hit kit that his company had purchased from Rhino and said he would stick around after the meeting if anyone was interested in looking at it.

Dennis Lescalleet asked how the Miss Utility Law addresses underground utility lines on fixed sites. He said they have a construction material recycling site and he thinks there may be underground facilities at the site. He’s concerned because their heavy machinery digs in the ground and he’s never seen marks at the site. John Payne suggested that he contact his legal folks. Matt Ruddo suggested that he call in a locate request to see if the utility lines are public or private.

Robert Vicks (PEPCO) stated that PEPCO recently called in tickets and they were all statused with a 48 hour delay. Wayne Gilmer stated that he is familiar with PEPCO’s concerns and that 48 hour delays were statused because they were having IT issues on the day the tickets were due for a status.

Upcoming Damage Prevention Presentations:
October 3, 2006 Anne Arundel County Department of Public Works Bureau of Highways at 435 Maxwell Frye Road in Millersville, MD from 8:00 am to 10:00 am

Upcoming Trade shows:

  • 30th & Oct. 1st Harford Live Home & Garden Show at Ripken Stadium in Aberdeen, MD


  • 20th-22nd Fall Maryland Home and Garden Show at the Timonium Fairgrounds in Timonium, MD
  • 27th-29th Suburban Maryland Fall Home & Garden Show at the Show Place Arena in Upper Marlboro, MD

Upcoming Meetings:
The next Maryland/DC Damage Prevention meeting is scheduled for October 24, 2006 at the Miss Utility Center. Coffee and donuts will be served at 9:00 am. The meeting will begin at 9:30 am.

The next Maryland/DC Marking Standards Committee will meet immediately following the Damage Prevention Meeting. Lunch will be available for those that attend.

The Maryland/DC Subscribers meeting will be held December 6, 2006 at the Miss Utility Center. Coffee and donuts will be served at 8:30 am, and the meeting will begin at 9:00 am.

There being no further business to be brought before the committee, the meeting was adjourned at 11:10 am.

Attendee List
Name   Company   Phone   Email
Wayne Gilmer   Utiliquest   301-674-2769   Walter.gilmer@utiliquest.com
Mark Hamrick   Verizon   410-610-1371   Mark.a.hamrick@verizon.com
Shawn Breen   Verizon   410-737-4042   Shawn.p.breen@verizon.com
Matt Ruddo   Miss Utility Center   410-712-0056   matt@missutility.net
Tim Kempa   Comcast   410-371-3304   Tim_kempa@cbale.comcast.com
Bede DuPree   Mastec   443-336-2842   Bedee.dupree@mastec.com
Christy Stinebaugh   Verizon   410-737-4150   christy.m.stinebaugh@verizon.com
Zenon Sushko   MDPSC   410-767-8113   zsushko@psc.state.md.us
Tom Baldwin   BGE   410-291-3121   t.c.baldwin@bge.com
Dennis Lescalleet   Pleasants Construction   301-428-0800   dlescalleet@pleasants.org
Kenton Jones   Verizon   410-746-7097   Kenton.l.jones@verizon.com
Vince Healy   Verizon   301-790-7368   Vincent.c.healy@verizon.com
Jay Spence   Mirant Piney Pt. LLC   301-751-6269   James.spence@mirant.com
Matt Cupples   Flippo Construction   703-370-8778   mcupples@flippo.com
Karen Watkins   SMECO   301-274-4350   Karen.watkins@smeco.coop
John Payne   Southern Maryland Cable   410-867-7577   jpayne@smcinc.com
Brian Sink   S&N Communications   301-874-8773   bsink@sncommfo.com
Tony Goodman   Washington Gas   703-750-4708   agoodman@washgas.com
Kelly Hardy   Utiliquest, LLC   410-536-0070   Kelly.hardy@utiliquest.com
Denise Collins   Networx, Inc.   410-414-8494   dcollins@networxusa.com
Joe Pavel   Verizon   410-456-4809   Joseph.g.pavel@verizon.com
Scott Brown   Washington Gas   703-750-4388   ssbrown@washgas.com
Robert Vicks   PEPCO   202-388-2141   rvicks@pepco.com
Tom Hastings   OCC Locating   410-712-0202   thastings@occls.com
Sherell Stone   NPL Construction   410-355-1083   sstone@nplcc.com
Rick Behrens   CableCom   916-712-5028   rlbehrens@bellsouth.net
Mike Bell   Utiliquest   484-410-1316   Mike.bell@utiliquest.com
Veronica Rozier   Utiliquest   407-697-7161   Veronica.rozier@utiliquest.com
Bob Norman   Utiliquest   410-536-0070   Bob.norman@utiliquest.com
Dave Dubs   Networx   703-989-1715   ddubs@networxusa.com
Jack Sullivan   BGE   410-291-3304   John.a.sullivan@bge.com
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